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Mesg #90778 "Self pub'ing advice please"
Author ananaso     Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
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Wed May-02-12 05:32 PMby ananaso

Sorry if I'm posting in the wrong place but it's been quite some time since I called in here, and I notice you've moved the furniture around.

I have a Q I hope you can help me with. I guess people are finally taking me seriously as a writer after all these years, because I've been tasked with producing a souvenir book for a fiesta taking place in July. It'll be betwixt 48 and 96 pages long (depending on what content I can produce, what ads we can sell, ads are selling nicely), and the fiesta is 21 July. I'm hoping to get the text written by the end of May. We would prefer colour pages, but I'm trying to persuade them against it at the moment and go B&W, as colour is quite expensive it seems.

I'm based in the UK, so does anyone know of a good, online self-pub tool/company that could do this cheaply with a UK customer base in mind? Current costs and quotes I'm seeing are making this project cost prohibitive.

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RE: Self pub'ing advice please, CatrinP, May 02nd 2012, #1
RE: Self pub'ing advice please, Weird Jim, May 03rd 2012, #2
RE: Self pub'ing advice please, astropolis, May 12th 2012, #3
Expected to produce an entire book overnight, ananaso, Aug 20th 2012, #4
RE: Expected to produce an entire book overnight, CatrinP, Aug 21st 2012, #5
RE: Expected to produce an entire book overnight, MarFisk, Sep 02nd 2012, #6

Mesg #90779 "RE: Self pub'ing advice please"
Author CatrinP     Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
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Thu May-03-12 02:39 PMby CatrinP

I don't know the situation in UK, since I live in Australia, but I have produced a number of booklets and such for events.

The most economical method I have found here, depending on numbers, is using a copy service.

The services I have used here is Snap or Cost Less Copies. Also the local university has a copy service available to the public. I mention thier names so you can google them and see if you have access so something similar.

What I have produced is a magazine like booklet - soft cover, folded and stapled - both A5 size and A4 size.

Both of these places will take either a printed copy or a file - the file I give them is a PDF. I always give them the booklet in A4 size and they print in the size I require.

One booklet had a glossy colour cover, another had a color middle page. I've also done a black and white cover but on paper with a higher GSM (grams per square meter).

The only resetiction I had was the number of pages - it had to be a multiple of 4.

Working with the staff was no problems either, a few visits with samples and a few trial runs - one place charged me for the trials, another charged me for the 5th and 6th, one place didn't charge me at all - and everything was set up well before the printing was needed. It meant that when I got all the content - which of course came at the last minute - I could send it off at the very latest and know I would be picking up something good.

I can't remember the exact cost, but that would be irrelavant anyway, but for the quantities I was printing (from 50 upto 500) these printing services were very economical.

  

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Mesg #90780 "RE: Self pub'ing advice please"
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Thu May-03-12 06:27 PMby Weird Jim

I don't know if this will be any use to you, nor how much it costs, or if it works from the UK.

http://www.blurb.com/

EDIT: You could also try a search for 'Print on Demand. UK'

Weird Jim

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Mesg #90844 "RE: Self pub'ing advice please"
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I put together an anthology of our writers' group's work using Lulu. It took quite a lot of effort but the results were very good.

http://www.lulu.com/shop/reading-writers/another-light-raid/paperback/product-15826125.html

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Mesg #91408 "Expected to produce an entire book overnight"
Author ananaso     Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
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Mon Aug-20-12 04:36 PMby ananaso

Thanks for the earlier advice.

Unfortunately, the people organising it think that writers can just pull material out of thin air on a whim.

The organisers gave me an extremely vague idea about what they wanted, but not enough to go on to start writing. They decided to go with a vanity publisher they themselves had found, which was massively overpriced (Over £10 ($15?) for each copy of a 48 page booklet). I objected, advising the organisation was being ripped off, but agreed to continue to work on the content when a suitable brief had been given to me. They never did come to me, even when I chased them up on it, so I supposed my services were not required.

Then, on the Monday before the Fiesta, with only 5 days to go, I had a phone call. I was about to retire early for the night due to an important business meeting the next day in a distant town. "We need you to finish the book by tomorrow evening, deadline 5pm so that it can be printed in time."

I explained that I was going to bed, and could not produce 48 pages of material immediately for them just like that. "Oh, you can do it on your lunch break tomorrow." I explained that because I was out of town, I would likely be doing lunch with clients so I could not. "Can you just stay up late and write something now?" Good night, I said.

In the end, they used a 600 word article of mine I had pre-prepared for them, but that was just one page. I have no idea where they expected me to get the rest of the content from at such short notice. They put the book together themselves, and the rest of the book was just photos, badly edited together. Words have been spoken in the organisation that things generally need to be better organised next year.

I'm hoping not to be involved next year.

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Mesg #91412 "RE: Expected to produce an entire book overnight"
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Hugs to you.

48 pages is a lot of words, photos and a lot more organisation. My 12 page program I produce each couple of months has a set format, I don't write any words, and have hubby with a continuous set of photos I draw from - he even selects them for me. Admittedly I have a large spreadsheet of entrants I have to fiddle and format but each time it takes me 3 to 4 hours or work to get it ready to send to printer, and I've been doing this for 3 years now.

Some people have no idea of what it takes to get something that looks professionally done.

  

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HUGS! What I would suggest is that you give them a rundown of what it takes and state up front if they want a real writer, they need to plan on at least X days for the process. That way either they'll consider you too high maintenance and won't bug you, or they'll learn from their idiocy and it'll be better next year.

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