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RE: suspension of disbelief,
Linda Adams,
Mar 25th 2012, #1
RE: suspension of disbelief,
Justinvs,
Mar 25th 2012, #2
RE: suspension of disbelief,
CatrinP,
Mar 26th 2012, #3
RE: suspension of disbelief,
junedrexler,
Mar 27th 2012, #4
RE: suspension of disbelief,
RavenCorbie,
Mar 29th 2012, #5
RE: suspension of disbelief,
mooseythehut,
Mar 30th 2012, #6
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Linda Adams |
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I like your definition. But, I think it's also picking events in the story that don't make the reader jam on the brakes and say, "No way!"
I just finished a thriller did that to me. It was a fairly standard book, using crime as a basis. Where I ran into the suspension of disbelief was the opening chapter that motivated the characters. In it, a girl is killed in what looks like an auto accident. The killer is seated in the passenger seat, buckled in, and the murder victim's seatbelt is sabotaged. He essentially forces her to crash into a pole. My suspension of disbelief is that being in the car to execute the murder like this is too big of a risk. He cannot guarantee that the accident won't kill or injure him -- and yet, he walks away completely unharmed. I just could not buy it. ~~~~~~Signature's Off~~~~~~
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junedrexler |
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Tue Mar-27-12 02:54 PM |
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I don't disagree with anything that's already been said, but I approach the question from a very simple place.
Readers know that fiction is 'not real', yet they allow themselves to care as if the characters and events were really happening.
To make the reader care about something that is totally invented on the pages of a book is a great skill.
--June ~~~~~~Signature's Off~~~~~~
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RavenCorbie  |
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I've thought about this a lot, actually. I think everyone has good points, but that it's also very subjective. For me, I'm much harder on myself about getting details right than I am other authors. I don't get knocked out of the story if they get something wrong; I get knocked out if I stop caring. So, I tend to agree more with June when evaluating other writing. Even if I know something is wrong, if I care about the characters and the story, I don't care that this one detail is wrong.
I was reading a vampire novel not too long ago, and some things just didn't make sense, even in that setting, but I loved the characters, so I couldn't put the book down. I know the Pirates of the Caribbean movies got a LOT wrong (after trying to write my own pirate novel), but I still love them and watch them over and over again. I think they'd be better with correct details, but they're great as is.
On the other hand, this is why I don't write historical fiction. I don't want to have wrong details in the story, but I struggle with researching details. I'm a perfectionist, so I want 100% accuracy, and that's just not possible if you want to actually get down to writing the novel. I would feel like a fake if I wrote a historical novel knowing I had not done the research that was needed for it. Yet, I read historical novels that I'm sure aren't perfect all the time. I know it's double standards, but I can't help it: I just can't write something I know might not be accurate, unless I'm making it up. And then it still needs to be realistic. ~~~~~~Signature's Off~~~~~~
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mooseythehut |
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Fri Mar-30-12 04:43 PM |
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To simplify the points others have made even more: suspension of disbelief is the point at which the reader says "I'll buy it"
They may not be fully immersed in the world or completely agree with the rationale for everything that happens, but they are willing to accept the plot point or setup or character arc or whatever other element the writer is trying to "sell."
So with that said, I do want to make the point that suspension of disbelief isn't only about thorough worldbuilding and airtight plotting. It's an outcome of those things as well as all the other things like character development and style and story structure. Reader belief, or a better term might be reader acceptance, comes from how well the story works as a whole. ~~~~~~Signature's Off~~~~~~
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