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Mesg #181 "33. Catching Fire by Suzanne Collins"
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Well, well, well. This is going to be spoilery so don't read if you haven't read the book and are planning to.

I'm having a love-hate relationship with Katniss. I like how strong she seems at times - within the Games, supporting her family, doing what she thinks needs to be done to keep everyone going.

I *hate* how the love triangle makes her seem so wishy washy ALL THE TIME. And I don't like that she does seem to be falling apart more, the farther into the series I get. Is Collins trying to comment on what happens to people during war when they don't really stand for something? I mean, Gale has a definite position, and I suppose Peeta's determination to see that Katniss survives could be considered a position.... I just feel like Katniss flips back and forth on what needs to be done so much. And why was she so angry with Peeta towards the end of the book? I must have missed something. Her "I hate him, I'll keep him alive, but I'm going to be really bitchy towards him now" attitude being launched by the slightest perceived slight drove me CRAZY.

What would have made me happy?

If Katniss stuck with her feeling that Gale is definitely 'just' her best friend as per the beginning of the Hunger Games. This would have allowed for her to still desire to protect him and respect and value his opinion, but it would have also allowed her to fall in love with Peeta without so much inner conflict. And then the focus could have been put on how to keep that fragile relationship alive in the chaos of the Games and the ensuing revolt. There would have been some conflict too over what she thought would be best for Peeta versus her family but maybe it wouldn't have rendered Katniss so completely flip-floppy.

And, of course, without the triangle to distract her emotions, she could have been more of a conscious participant within the political machinations of the book.

Regarding the broader context of the book, I did find the world that Collins created to be quite intriguing. I'd like to know more about a lot of the different elements - who are these peacekeepers, why are there so many, because the people in the Capitol seem a little, ah, flighty a lot of the time. So how are they raising such a big fighting force to smack down the Districts - or is it just a question of firepower?

I'd like to know more about how the Avox live, to know more about life in the different Districts. I'd have liked to see Katniss interacting with non-romantic interest friends more.

I'm sure I'll read the last book in the series to see how things are resolved (I did skim it to get a sense of where things go, but i'll read it through for the full effect). I'm just not sure that this series *overall* really does it for me. Great ideas, great concepts, but poor execution of romantic subplot and the main character just deteriorates too much for me.

Note that I do get that she's in a really extreme situation so it does make sense for Katniss to mentally start shutting down, but I guess I expected a little more. I would have been fine if she'd had moments of weakness, an emotional breakdown here and there, tunnel vision on a goal she's set for herself, etc.. But making a decision and then two pages later reversing that decision and then two pages later not knowing what to do and two pages later loving someone and two pages later hating them and so on just drove me nuts.


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  1. Last Sacrifice by Richelle Mead, Lucy, Jan 02nd 2011, #1
Harlequin Books, Lucy, Jan 04th 2011, #2
2. Heat Wave by "Richard Castle", Lucy, Jan 11th 2011, #3
3. Changeless by Gail Carriger, Lucy, Jan 29th 2011, #4
4. Blameless by Gail Carriger, Lucy, Feb 01st 2011, #5
5. Late Eclipses by Seanan McGuire, Lucy, Mar 07th 2011, #6
6. Discovery of Witches - Harkniss, Lucy, Mar 31st 2011, #7
7 & 8. Iron King and Iron Daughter - Julie.. Nagawa?, Lucy, Mar 31st 2011, #8
9. Demonglass by Rachel Hawkins, Lucy, Mar 31st 2011, #9
10. Shadowfever by Karen Marie Moning, Lucy, Mar 31st 2011, #10
11, 12, 13 Darkest Powers Trilogy by Kelley Armstrong, Lucy, Mar 31st 2011, #11
14. Beastly by Flinn, Lucy, Mar 31st 2011, #12
15. Curse the Dawn by Karen Chance, Lucy, Mar 31st 2011, #13
16. Marked by the Casts, Lucy, Mar 31st 2011, #14
17. Chalice by Robin McKinley, Lucy, Mar 31st 2011, #15
18, 19 & 20. Some Girls Bite, Friday Night Bites, Twice..., Lucy, Apr 06th 2011, #16
21. The Becoming by Jeanne C Stein, Lucy, Apr 06th 2011, #17
22. Wondrous Strange by Lesley Livingston, Lucy, Apr 09th 2011, #18
23. One For the Money by Janet Evanovich, Lucy, Apr 17th 2011, #19
24 + 25. First Two Dresden Files Books by Jim Butcher, Lucy, Apr 17th 2011, #20
26, 27, 28. Two for the Dough, Three to Get Deadly, Fou..., Lucy, May 01st 2011, #21
29. Grave Peril by Jim Dresden, Lucy, May 01st 2011, #22
30. Valiant by Holly Black, Lucy, May 01st 2011, #23
31. Hot Six by Janet Evanovich, Lucy, May 02nd 2011, #24
32. Dead Reckoning by Charlaine Harris, Lucy, May 05th 2011, #25
33. + 34. Duchess by Night, When the Duke Returns both ..., Lucy, May 05th 2011, #26
35. Seven Up by Janet Evanovich, Lucy, May 06th 2011, #27
36. Hard Eight by Janet Evanovich, Lucy, May 06th 2011, #28
37, 38, 39 and 40 - 9-12 by Janet Evanovich, Lucy, May 12th 2011, #29
41, 42, 43, 44. 13-16 by Janet Evanovich, Lucy, May 19th 2011, #30
45. Little (Grrl) Lost by Charles de Lint, Lucy, Jun 01st 2011, #31
46. R is for Ricochet by Sue Grafton, Lucy, Jun 02nd 2011, #32
47, 48, 49. First 3 in a series by Cate Tiernan (?), Lucy, Jun 06th 2011, #33
50. Hunt the Moon by Karen Chance, Lucy, Jun 09th 2011, #34
51. Ranger's Apprentice: Ruins of Gorlon (#1) by John F..., Lucy, Jun 12th 2011, #35
52. Grand Finale by Janet Evanovich & 53. Smokin Sevent..., Lucy, Jun 22nd 2011, #36
Up to 69, Lucy, Sep 11th 2011, #37
70-72, Lucy, Sep 29th 2011, #38
73. Chosen Sin by Anya Bast, Lucy, Oct 02nd 2011, #39
74. One Salt Sea by Seanan McGuire, Lucy, Oct 12th 2011, #40
2012 - 1. In the Name of the Star by Maureen Johnson, Lucy, Jan 02nd 2012, #41
2012 - 2. The Phoenix by Rhoda Nelson, Lucy, Jan 05th 2012, #42
2012 - 3. Pirate Latitudes by Michael Crichton, Lucy, Jan 07th 2012, #43
2012 - 4. Heat Rises by Richard Castle, Lucy, Jan 11th 2012, #44
2012 - 5. The Cruellest Month by Louise Penny, Lucy, Jan 15th 2012, #45
2012 - 6. Straight to the Heart by Samantha Hunter, Lucy, Jan 20th 2012, #46
7. + 8. Real Men Will by Victoria Dahl and The Keeper b..., Lucy, Jan 22nd 2012, #47
9, 10, 11 - Maximum Ride 1, 2, 3 by James Patterson et ..., Lucy, Feb 08th 2012, #48
12. Mammoth Book of Paranormal Romance, Lucy, Feb 08th 2012, #49
RE: Lucy's Shelf, ceige, Mar 05th 2012, #50
RE: Lucy's Shelf, Lucy, Mar 10th 2012, #51
      RE: Lucy's Shelf, ceige, Mar 10th 2012, #55
13. Prince of Wolves by Dave Gross, Lucy, Mar 10th 2012, #52
14. A Thief in the Night by David Chandler, Lucy, Mar 10th 2012, #53
15, 16, 17, 18, 19 and 20 - Harlequin's March "Blaze" l..., Lucy, Mar 10th 2012, #54
21. Honour Among Thieves by David Chandler, Lucy, Mar 30th 2012, #56
22. Witch and Wizard by James Patterson, Lucy, Mar 30th 2012, #57
23. The Iron Duke by Meljean Brook, Lucy, Mar 30th 2012, #58
24., 25., 26., 27., 28 and 29. Harlequin's April Blaze ..., Lucy, Apr 06th 2012, #59
30. The Hunger Games by Suzanne Collins, Lucy, Apr 06th 2012, #60
31. Heartless by Gail Carriger, Lucy, Apr 13th 2012, #61
32. Timeless by Gail Carriger, Lucy, Apr 17th 2012, #62
33. Catching Fire by Suzanne Collins, Lucy, Apr 18th 2012 #63
34. Alchemist of Souls by Anne Lyle, Lucy, Apr 18th 2012, #64
35. Wicked Deeds on a Winter's Night by Kresley Cole, Lucy, Apr 19th 2012, #65
36. The Fine Art of Truth or Dare by Melissa Jensen, Lucy, Apr 20th 2012, #66
37 + 38. Naked in Death / Glory In Death by JD Robb, Lucy, Apr 26th 2012, #67
39. Immortal in Death by JD Robb, 40. Grave Witch by Ka..., Lucy, Apr 28th 2012, #68
41-46. Harlequin's Blaze entries for May, Lucy, Apr 29th 2012, #69
47. Grimspace by Ann Aguire, Lucy, May 04th 2012, #70
48. The Forgotten Garden by Kate Morton, Lucy, May 08th 2012, #71
49. Anna and the French Kiss by Stephanie Perkins and 5..., Lucy, May 10th 2012, #72
51. Second Helpings by Megan McCafferty, Lucy, May 18th 2012, #73
52. Gabriel's Ghost - Linnea Sinclair, Lucy, May 22nd 2012, #74
53, 54, 55, 56, 57, 58. Harlequin's BLaze line for June, Lucy, May 24th 2012, #75
59. Discount Armageddon by Seanan McGuire, Lucy, May 30th 2012, #76
60., 61., 62., Along for the Ride, Just Listen, Lock an..., Lucy, Jun 06th 2012, #77
63. Epic Fail by Claire LaZebnik, Lucy, Jun 06th 2012, #78
64. Working Stiff by Rachel Caine, Lucy, Jun 06th 2012, #79
65.-70. Harlequin Blaze's July Line-Up, Lucy, Jun 07th 2012, #80
71. Spellbound by Rachel Hawkins, Lucy, Jun 21st 2012, #81
72. Deadlocked by Charlaine Harris, Lucy, Jun 21st 2012, #82
73 + 74 Sins and Shadows & Ghosts and Echoes both by ..., Lucy, Jun 21st 2012, #83
75. Prom and Prejudice by Elizabeth Eulberg, Lucy, Jun 21st 2012, #84
76. Kushiel's Dart by Jacqueline Carey, Lucy, Jun 21st 2012, #85
77. Hush, Hush by Becca Fitzpatrick, Lucy, Jun 24th 2012, #86
78. Gods and Monsters by Lyn Benedict, Lucy, Jun 25th 2012, #87
79. + 80. Crescendo and Silence by Becca Fitzpatrick, Lucy, Jun 26th 2012, #88
81. Dead Girl Walking by Linda Joy Singleton, Lucy, Jun 28th 2012, #89
82. Damsel in Disguise by Susan Gee Heino, Lucy, Jul 10th 2012, #90
83-88. Harlequin's August Blaze Line-up, 89. Unbuttonin..., Lucy, Jul 10th 2012, #91
96. A Perfect Storm by Lori Foster + 97. Divorced, Desp..., Lucy, Jul 12th 2012, #92
98. Man Who Loved Pride and Prejudice by Abigail Reynol..., Lucy, Jul 12th 2012, #93
99. Ruby Red by Kerstein Gier, Lucy, Jul 17th 2012, #94
100. Scent of Darkness by Christina Dodd, Lucy, Jul 17th 2012, #95
101. Death's Daughter by Amber Benson, Lucy, Jul 23rd 2012, #96
102. The Bedlam Detective by Stephen Gallagher, Lucy, Jul 23rd 2012, #97
103. The Fetch by Chris Humphries, Lucy, Jul 28th 2012, #98
104. When you Dare by Lori Foster, Lucy, Aug 05th 2012, #99
105. Airborn by Kenneth Oppel, Lucy, Aug 05th 2012, #100
106. Immortal Rules by Julie Kagawa, Lucy, Aug 06th 2012, #101
107. Rapture in Death by JD Robb, Lucy, Aug 10th 2012, #102
108-113, Lucy, Aug 29th 2012, #103
114 - 120, Lucy, Sep 16th 2012, #104
121. The Janus Affair by Pip Ballantine and Tee Morris, Lucy, Sep 19th 2012, #105

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