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90877, Graduation Speech by Neil Gaiman
Posted by KatsInCommand, Fri May-18-12 05:06 PM
Neil Gaiman gave quite the graduation speech.

http://journal.neilgaiman.com/2012/05/trust-me-im-doctor-honorary-of-fine.html

So what did you like?
90878, RE: Graduation Speech by Neil Gaiman
Posted by RavenCorbie, Sat May-19-12 09:34 PM
I loved the whole thing. Thanks for sharing!
90879, RE: Graduation Speech by Neil Gaiman
Posted by KatsInCommand, Sat May-19-12 10:17 PM
Glad to share.

His whole "make good art" doesn't look as good on the computer screen as it does with his very lovely accent. :)
90880, RE: Graduation Speech by Neil Gaiman
Posted by RavenCorbie, Sun May-20-12 12:15 AM
Agreed :).
90881, RE: Graduation Speech by Neil Gaiman
Posted by dabrownofmn, Sun May-20-12 09:42 AM
Thanks for sharing. I liked the part about how you only need two out of three qualities to keep a job. Very true!
90894, RE: Graduation Speech by Neil Gaiman
Posted by KatsInCommand, Tue May-22-12 09:42 PM
Hmm I missed that part? I remember when he said he lied to get his jobs...
90895, RE: Graduation Speech by Neil Gaiman
Posted by RavenCorbie, Tue May-22-12 10:50 PM
I doubt you missed it. It was the part where he was talking about freelancing and how you need to have good work, to be on time, and to be pleasant to work with . . . but really just two of those are often enough. He went into pretty good detail about it, I thought, so I can't imagine you missing it.

That was one of my favorite parts, too!
90896, RE: Graduation Speech by Neil Gaiman
Posted by KatsInCommand, Wed May-23-12 06:35 AM
ah yes, now I recall. :)
90892, RE: Graduation Speech by Neil Gaiman
Posted by Erin_M_H, Tue May-22-12 03:17 PM
I liked "If you don't know it's impossible, it's easier to do."

Thanks for posting the link.

-- Erin
90893, RE: Graduation Speech by Neil Gaiman
Posted by KatsInCommand, Tue May-22-12 06:20 PM
that's a good one!
90911, RE: Graduation Speech by Neil Gaiman
Posted by Dreamerscove, Sat May-26-12 02:54 AM
I LOVED this speech. It had so many good parts in it. All with a touch of humor to it.

"Cat explodes? Make good art..." :tongue:
90920, RE: Graduation Speech by Neil Gaiman
Posted by Weird Jim, Mon May-28-12 10:37 PM
I've just (well a few hours ago) listened this. I shall hope to listen to it again tomorrow.

I wonder how many have listened to this more than once.

But that first listen, even though there were other things I noted, and I have to go back to remember most of them, left me wondering what he meant by 'good art'. I previously had come to the conclusion that art was subjective, so that good art could mean many things to many people.

Does anyone set out to deliberately make 'bad art'? Does he perhaps mean do the best you can; or perhaps never stop learning and trying to improve, which he said was a technique he used? (It's amazing how much I'm recalling as I write this.)

One more comment is that he is a good speaker and he doesn't seem to waste many words.

Weird Jim

"Good reading is the only test of good writing"
Robertson Davies. A voice from the attic 1960
90921, RE: Graduation Speech by Neil Gaiman
Posted by Erin_M_H, Mon May-28-12 10:59 PM
Bad art --

* This is selling well right now, so I'll just knock one out this month.
* My fans will pay for anything I do, so I don't have to work at this any more.
* I'm afraid if I try anything new, it won't be well received, so I'll just do more of the same.
90923, RE: Graduation Speech by Neil Gaiman
Posted by RavenCorbie, Tue May-29-12 08:55 AM
To me, bad art would be art you just don't care about, whatever the reason. Erin's list covered a lot of them, but there's also:

I'm not good at art anyway, so I'm not going to try this great idea I have because I'll screw it up.

Or

I don't want to work at this because I'm lazy; no one will notice anyway.

I think a lot of "bad art" comes from fear, and letting that fear take you away from what you want to do. Choosing the easy path, not the difficult, interesting one.

And while I agree that no one sets out to "make bad art", a lot of people settle for making bad art.