Vision: A Resource for Writers
Lazette Gifford, Editor
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Holly Lisle's Vision

Around the Boards 

with Jim Mills...


The Discussion Board... 

http://network54.com/Hide/Forum/64272  

One of our members is no longer with us.  Jack Harness passed away on Friday, July 13, 2001. I didn't know him long or well enough.  He gave me some good critiques and I had the opportunity to read and crit one of his stories.  You'll find his posts here and there around the boards.  We'll miss you, Jack.  Here's a link to the Jack Harness memorial web site, including a picture and thoughts of those who knew Jack:

http://www.lasfs.org/lasfs/history/harness.html  

A thread from when we first learned of our loss of Jack:

http://network54.com/Hide/Forum/thread?forumid=64272&messageid=995238111  


Forum Design Contest Final Results 

Congratulations go to Holly Lisle, whose Forum was an inspiration... in more ways than one. Here is the scoring breakdown:

http://network54.com/Hide/Forum/thread?forumid=64272&messageid=995845313 


Classes at Forward Motion!

Way back when I joined as a member of Holly's site, one of my favorite features was participating in the classes and workshops.  They've been on hiatus for a while, but now they're back, and better than ever.  Read all about 'em... here's the link:

http://network54.com/Hide/Forum/thread?forumid=64272&messageid=995648306  

Speaking of classes and workshops, Holly is running a course of classes based on the new bible of writing: Writing the Breakout Novel by Donald Maass.  If you want to write well, get a copy of this book!  I haven't seen it in bookstores yet, but it's out there, or you can order it from Amazon like I did.  Here's the scoop on Holly's course of classes:

http://network54.com/Hide/Forum/thread?forumid=64272&messageid=996476557 

Info on registering for classes:

http://network54.com/Hide/Forum/thread?forumid=64272&messageid=996454133 


Visor owners - information on various applications for your PDA: 

http://network54.com/Hide/Forum/thread?forumid=64272&messageid=996329416 


An interesting thread containing comments on multiple viewpoints: 

http://network54.com/Hide/Forum/thread?forumid=64272&messageid=996221348 


Is it a novel?

Here's another interesting thread on how you know if you have a novel-worthy idea (as opposed to a short story idea), with comments about "padding" the story out to novel length:

http://network54.com/Hide/Forum/thread?forumid=64272&messageid=996159578


Pictures

Zette takes really interesting pictures.  Have a look.  Maybe they'll inspire a story for you.  Here are a couple of links: 

Dewdrops and the Short Story classes:

http://network54.com/Hide/Forum/thread?forumid=64272&messageid=996534191

A tiny backyard flower:

http://network54.com/Hide/Forum/thread?forumid=64272&messageid=996122730 

I particularly liked the boy, teddy bear and dragon in the clouds:

http://network54.com/Hide/Forum/thread?forumid=64272&messageid=995716757 

A peacock, 24 stories sold in 24 months and a national award:

http://network54.com/Hide/Forum/thread?forumid=64272&messageid=995347067 


Also from Zette: What to do when stories hit: 

http://network54.com/Hide/Forum/thread?forumid=64272&messageid=995865893


Love  

Should you have love scenes in your fantasy or SF stories?  Here's the thread for a discussion on that topic.

http://network54.com/Hide/Forum/thread?forumid=64272&messageid=995971872

How about movie fight scenes?  How should you write fight scenes in your novel?

http://network54.com/Hide/Forum/thread?forumid=64272&messageid=995845313


Writing Mythology

The class on Developing Mythological Systems spawned a thread of comments with lots of good information.  Check it out:

http://network54.com/Hide/Forum/thread?forumid=64272&messageid=995088519 

More on mythology -- unsystematic mythology:

http://network54.com/Hide/Forum/thread?forumid=64272&messageid=995567664


Bob Billing asks for help!  No tension - or what's wrong with the WIP?

This is a thread that gives you a look at some of Bob's work and comments various members have made about how to improve it:

http://network54.com/Hide/Forum/thread?forumid=64272&messageid=995412883 


Keeping Stories in line

Ever have that feeling that one of your ideas has escaped you and is merrily writing itself into a huge monolith?  Comments about writing your story:

http://network54.com/Hide/Forum/thread?forumid=64272&messageid=995391416 


What you MUST have for fantasy

An interesting debate:

http://network54.com/Hide/Forum/thread?forumid=64272&messageid=995344899 


Sequels and trilogies and selling your work:

http://network54.com/Hide/Forum/thread?forumid=64272&messageid=995341791


Justin Stanchfield asks: What was the seed?

What was the first book any of you read, or movie or television program you watched, that made you sit up and say "Hey! I could do this!" What lit the fire inside you to become a writer?

http://network54.com/Hide/Forum/thread?forumid=64272&messageid=995210985 


Some of Holly's books are available for free:

Fire in the Mist:

http://network54.com/Hide/Forum/thread?forumid=64272&messageid=995321265 

Vengeance of Dragons:

http://network54.com/Hide/Forum/thread?forumid=64272&messageid=991958957


Fantasy archetypes:

 http://network54.com/Hide/Forum/thread?forumid=64272&messageid=995247800  


There's more -- lots more.  The links above are just a sample. 

When you look at the discussion board, especially if you haven't been there in a while, do you look at more than one page?  The writers' board is our most active board, and there are lots of threads with all kinds of interesting discussions, as well as general information that you may find useful in your stories.  When you get to the bottom of the page, you'll see "Next >>" at the lower right.  Click on that to take you to the next page.  The posts are in "most recent first" order, and we keep most old posts, so there's a lot of stuff you can peruse.  See the numbers (i.e.: 1 through 25?) at the bottom?  You can click on any of those to go directly to that page.  At the time of this writing, there are 137 pages dating back to May of 2000 -- over a year of accumulated information.  Enjoy! 

-- Jim Mills

Jim@HollyLisle.com